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	<title>Comments on: Living in a material world</title>
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	<description>Think we can&#039;t live without plastic? Think again. In 2007 I committed to stop buying any new plastic &#38; I&#039;ve almost succeeded! Won&#039;t you join me? Let&#039;s see what plastic-free looks like in 2012... for the health of our bodies, our oceans, our planet. ~Beth Terry</description>
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		<title>By: Hillary</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/01/living-in-material-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1178</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beth, I&#039;ve been thinking about your statement &quot;consider the cheese wrapper as well as the cheese&quot; for a couple of weeks now. I like its potential as a very simple rule to live by.  But at the same time I&#039;ve been sad that you&#039;re giving up the cheese that you love so much, because of the plastic.  And so I&#039;ve come up with the corollary to your maxim, which is to consider the cheese as well as the wrapper. For me, it&#039;s important to think of both sides of this equation, so as not to lose sight of what I love and value for the pleasure it gives me in my pursuit of an ideal.  Is there a balance? Can pleasure and aesceticism coexist?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth, I&#8217;ve been thinking about your statement &#8220;consider the cheese wrapper as well as the cheese&#8221; for a couple of weeks now. I like its potential as a very simple rule to live by.  But at the same time I&#8217;ve been sad that you&#8217;re giving up the cheese that you love so much, because of the plastic.  And so I&#8217;ve come up with the corollary to your maxim, which is to consider the cheese as well as the wrapper. For me, it&#8217;s important to think of both sides of this equation, so as not to lose sight of what I love and value for the pleasure it gives me in my pursuit of an ideal.  Is there a balance? Can pleasure and aesceticism coexist?</p>
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		<title>By: chiya</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/01/living-in-material-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1169</link>
		<dc:creator>chiya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi!  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s interesting... I never thought of materialistic meaning that you care more about the stuff, i just assumed that it was acquiring more and more stuff.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But they could stop putting everything on styrofoam plates at the cafeteria at our school......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s interesting&#8230; I never thought of materialistic meaning that you care more about the stuff, i just assumed that it was acquiring more and more stuff.</p>
<p>But they could stop putting everything on styrofoam plates at the cafeteria at our school&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pelf</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/01/living-in-material-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1154</link>
		<dc:creator>pelf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know how you must have felt! Because I have also personally tried to convince fellow grad students to bring their own lunch boxes rather than using a polystyrene foam box everyday. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They&#039;re grad students, mind you, and I really thought that they would have a wee bit of sensitivity and knowledge on the importance of NOT using those non-biodegradable boxes, but no.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They didn&#039;t care one bit. I felt like biting their heads off! LOL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know how you must have felt! Because I have also personally tried to convince fellow grad students to bring their own lunch boxes rather than using a polystyrene foam box everyday. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re grad students, mind you, and I really thought that they would have a wee bit of sensitivity and knowledge on the importance of NOT using those non-biodegradable boxes, but no.</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t care one bit. I felt like biting their heads off! LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: CindyW</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/01/living-in-material-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1123</link>
		<dc:creator>CindyW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looking at the behavior of children when they receive presents on Christmas morning, you will immediately see more is not more. The more they get, they less time they spend on each gift they receive. The frenzy becomes going to the next one, and the next one. I always believe children&#039;s behavior is often an unpolluted gauge of adults. We may invent convoluted ways of explaining our behavior, children display it in the most unsubconscious form. Give a child one toy, s/he will spend time investigating it and getting to know it. Give a child 10 at once, s/he disregards all. More is not more in most cases.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the behavior of children when they receive presents on Christmas morning, you will immediately see more is not more. The more they get, they less time they spend on each gift they receive. The frenzy becomes going to the next one, and the next one. I always believe children&#8217;s behavior is often an unpolluted gauge of adults. We may invent convoluted ways of explaining our behavior, children display it in the most unsubconscious form. Give a child one toy, s/he will spend time investigating it and getting to know it. Give a child 10 at once, s/he disregards all. More is not more in most cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Green Bean</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/01/living-in-material-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1114</link>
		<dc:creator>Green Bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hear, hear!  Slowing down to appreciate what we&#039;ve got brings things into perspective.  Great post!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear!  Slowing down to appreciate what we&#8217;ve got brings things into perspective.  Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Clif</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/01/living-in-material-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1113</link>
		<dc:creator>Clif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice thoughts with which I agree but...cost is what drives people. If things were very expensive than folks would drastically scale back consumption...carefully thinking about how something would be used and if it were necessary to buy it. They would have a mindset like my parents did, shaped by experience of deprivation when things came dear (the Great Depression), and the ease with which money can be lost. Recent generations don&#039;t have that experience (though it may be coming to a neighborhood near you as we speak). It is the cheapness of things in hard cash that makes us careless about what we do.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Plastic is a godsend for a consumer culture because it is dirt cheap, and can be tailor-made to have characteristics for any purpose, size, shape, texture, color, smoothness, hardness, pliability, weight, etc.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When I was a kid I would imagine what it might be like to have a machine that you could use to create anything you wanted. Turn it on, wait a few minutes, open the door and there would be what you desired. Plastic comes awfully close to allowing that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Consumption as we know it is a mindless pursuit driven by psychology, not need, and limited only by cost and, recently, not even by that if the price can be put off with credit to the future. Few things even pretend to be practical in the way they are advertised. It&#039;s all an appeal to the emotions and lifestyle...is this or that &quot;you&quot;? Why not buy it and see?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Reflective people can think their way out of this, but for the hungrily consuming and constantly stimulated multitude, only a crash will bring the mind back to reality. The kind of financial crash that will revive the long lost phrase, &quot;I can&#039;t afford it&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Of course, those of us who read this blog realize the planet can&#039;t afford what humanity is doing, but the only way that comes through down on the ground is when there isn&#039;t a wad of bills or a stash of credit cards in the wallet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice thoughts with which I agree but&#8230;cost is what drives people. If things were very expensive than folks would drastically scale back consumption&#8230;carefully thinking about how something would be used and if it were necessary to buy it. They would have a mindset like my parents did, shaped by experience of deprivation when things came dear (the Great Depression), and the ease with which money can be lost. Recent generations don&#8217;t have that experience (though it may be coming to a neighborhood near you as we speak). It is the cheapness of things in hard cash that makes us careless about what we do.</p>
<p>Plastic is a godsend for a consumer culture because it is dirt cheap, and can be tailor-made to have characteristics for any purpose, size, shape, texture, color, smoothness, hardness, pliability, weight, etc.</p>
<p>When I was a kid I would imagine what it might be like to have a machine that you could use to create anything you wanted. Turn it on, wait a few minutes, open the door and there would be what you desired. Plastic comes awfully close to allowing that.</p>
<p>Consumption as we know it is a mindless pursuit driven by psychology, not need, and limited only by cost and, recently, not even by that if the price can be put off with credit to the future. Few things even pretend to be practical in the way they are advertised. It&#8217;s all an appeal to the emotions and lifestyle&#8230;is this or that &#8220;you&#8221;? Why not buy it and see?</p>
<p>Reflective people can think their way out of this, but for the hungrily consuming and constantly stimulated multitude, only a crash will bring the mind back to reality. The kind of financial crash that will revive the long lost phrase, &#8220;I can&#8217;t afford it&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course, those of us who read this blog realize the planet can&#8217;t afford what humanity is doing, but the only way that comes through down on the ground is when there isn&#8217;t a wad of bills or a stash of credit cards in the wallet.</p>
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		<title>By: Radical Garbage Man</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/01/living-in-material-world/comment-page-1/#comment-1112</link>
		<dc:creator>Radical Garbage Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love this post, Beth.  It is so much more positive to think of this as awareness and appreciation rather than neurosis.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think, however, you&#039;ve identified the exact problem: most people don&#039;t want to be aware, let alone to slow down.  I realized this when, feeling particularly wise, I showed a friend a picture I found on &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://byotalk.blogspot.com/2007/09/nuff-said.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;Bring Your Own&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.  The text reads &quot;It is pretty amazing that our society has reached a point where the effort necessary to extract oil from the ground, ship it to a refinery, turn it into plastic, shape it appropriately, truck it to a store, buy it, bring it home...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;is considered to be less effort than what it takes to just wash the spoon when you&#039;re done with it.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Feeling a kind of enlightened-Buddha smugness, I was shocked when she said, &quot;yeah, but sometimes it &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; easier.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We may do bus ads in our municipality modeled off of the image linked to above, and I think that&#039;ll be great, but after reading this post, I&#039;m trying to imagine myself addressing the municipal taxpayers and saying &quot;try to be mindful of the life cycle of the materials that surround you.&quot;  It would clearly be better than the heavy guilt trip we work on laying.  Guilt breeds excuses (&quot;since I already did x I can get away with not doing y&quot;) or petulance (&quot;you can&#039;t make me&quot;) or class privilege (&quot;I pay my property taxes, now shut up and take my recyclable water bottles to the landfill&quot;).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Unfortunately, my little daydream casting me as St. Patrick holding up a plastic shamrock and gently correcting the good heathens about their natural resource use ends with, not the plastic snakes driven off the island, but me (now as Joan of Arc) being burned at the stake on a toxic fire of burning plastic bottles (what will get him first, the flame or the fume?), or, if you prefer, a buff St. Sebastian pierced not with Roman arrows, but plastic sporks.  Apologies to all those not raised Catholic in the 1950s or having a degree in Art History for the images.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this post, Beth.  It is so much more positive to think of this as awareness and appreciation rather than neurosis.</p>
<p>I think, however, you&#8217;ve identified the exact problem: most people don&#8217;t want to be aware, let alone to slow down.  I realized this when, feeling particularly wise, I showed a friend a picture I found on <a HREF="http://byotalk.blogspot.com/2007/09/nuff-said.html" REL="nofollow"><br />&#8220;Bring Your Own&#8221;</a>.  The text reads &#8220;It is pretty amazing that our society has reached a point where the effort necessary to extract oil from the ground, ship it to a refinery, turn it into plastic, shape it appropriately, truck it to a store, buy it, bring it home&#8230;</p>
<p>is considered to be less effort than what it takes to just wash the spoon when you&#8217;re done with it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Feeling a kind of enlightened-Buddha smugness, I was shocked when she said, &#8220;yeah, but sometimes it <i>is</i> easier.&#8221;</p>
<p>We may do bus ads in our municipality modeled off of the image linked to above, and I think that&#8217;ll be great, but after reading this post, I&#8217;m trying to imagine myself addressing the municipal taxpayers and saying &#8220;try to be mindful of the life cycle of the materials that surround you.&#8221;  It would clearly be better than the heavy guilt trip we work on laying.  Guilt breeds excuses (&#8220;since I already did x I can get away with not doing y&#8221;) or petulance (&#8220;you can&#8217;t make me&#8221;) or class privilege (&#8220;I pay my property taxes, now shut up and take my recyclable water bottles to the landfill&#8221;).</p>
<p>Unfortunately, my little daydream casting me as St. Patrick holding up a plastic shamrock and gently correcting the good heathens about their natural resource use ends with, not the plastic snakes driven off the island, but me (now as Joan of Arc) being burned at the stake on a toxic fire of burning plastic bottles (what will get him first, the flame or the fume?), or, if you prefer, a buff St. Sebastian pierced not with Roman arrows, but plastic sporks.  Apologies to all those not raised Catholic in the 1950s or having a degree in Art History for the images.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thought provoking post!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;CLM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought provoking post!</p>
<p>CLM</p>
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		<title>By: Deb G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like what you&#039;ve said here very much....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what you&#8217;ve said here very much&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beautiful!&lt;br/&gt;Judeo-Christian scripture demands that we be caretakers (&quot;stewards&quot;) of Creation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful!<br />Judeo-Christian scripture demands that we be caretakers (&#8220;stewards&#8221;) of Creation.</p>
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