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	<title>Comments on: I can has floor?</title>
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	<description>Think we can&#039;t live without plastic? Think again. In 2007 I committed to stop buying any new plastic &#38; I&#039;ve almost succeeded! Won&#039;t you join me? Let&#039;s see what plastic-free looks like in 2012... for the health of our bodies, our oceans, our planet. ~Beth Terry</description>
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		<title>By: Robj98168</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/05/i-can-has-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-2299</link>
		<dc:creator>Robj98168</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL LOL beth couldn&#039;t have found a better sub - guess it helps you livin in the same house- you made coffee come out my nose when you called Grocery Outlet &quot;The Used Food store&quot;. Now our Grocery outlet has a new nickname.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL LOL beth couldn&#8217;t have found a better sub &#8211; guess it helps you livin in the same house- you made coffee come out my nose when you called Grocery Outlet &#8220;The Used Food store&#8221;. Now our Grocery outlet has a new nickname.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/05/i-can-has-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-2298</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 22:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, liked your post.  The gym is always a good thing, and maybe they will get greener over the next several years.  Green seems to be getting blessedly hip, so maybe they will change with the times.  I did a couple of workouts on the On Demand feature of my cable today (one was Carmen Electra dancing, tres cool).  Also, I like to do good old squats, tricep dips, lunges, pushups &amp; crunches for free and without using gas or energy!  Baby steps!  Trying to get plasticless in Huntington Bch, CA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, liked your post.  The gym is always a good thing, and maybe they will get greener over the next several years.  Green seems to be getting blessedly hip, so maybe they will change with the times.  I did a couple of workouts on the On Demand feature of my cable today (one was Carmen Electra dancing, tres cool).  Also, I like to do good old squats, tricep dips, lunges, pushups &#038; crunches for free and without using gas or energy!  Baby steps!  Trying to get plasticless in Huntington Bch, CA</p>
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		<title>By: terrible person</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/05/i-can-has-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-2296</link>
		<dc:creator>terrible person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Soots and Arya, my dear sleek friends, the reason I didn&#039;t let you write the post is that I didn&#039;t want to subject the loyal readers of FPF to multiple paragraphs of your cute, but ultimately cloying and annoying LOLspeak. Your brother Robb can write coherently. Why can&#039;t you? Hmm. Since you have the same genetic heritage, it must be nurture. I guess &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; caretakers must provide you a more intellectually stimulating environment, more full of books and music.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;OK, yes, I got it wrong about sunk costs. It&#039;s not as if I&#039;ve invested anything in the gym so that I have to keep using it to make good my investment, or that I have to keep investing in the hopes of getting that big payoff someday, like a gambler who keeps doubling or nothing. &lt;i&gt;That&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; basically what we&#039;re doing in Iraq, otherwise known as pouring good money after bad, refusing to cut our losses and stop. What I&#039;m doing with the gym and granola bars is thinking, they&#039;re free, or cheap, so I must take advantage of them, whether they are really the best thing for me or not. However, the gym membership does convey some benefits besides the use of the energy-wasting stairclimber: places to change, rest, or use a hot tub or sauna all over the area. So I could argue either that I might as well continue my membership, or that I&#039;m getting my money&#039;s worth just from those factors and thus, don&#039;t need to use the stairmaster to justify my monthly dues payment.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve heard about the shoeless movement. If I could run just on dirt or grass, which I try to do anyway to reduce shock, I would try it. But on pavement -- especially considering some of the things that end up on the pavement -- I&#039;m not sure it would work. Although the interviewee in &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89830802&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this NPR piece&lt;/a&gt; thinks differently.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for swimming, I&#039;m not worried so much about the effects of chlorine on my body, though I guess I should be (though one of the places I swim uses a system that permits very low chlorination, so that the water tastes almost salty), but rather the effects on the environment of having big tubs of chlorinated water standing around. There must be a certain amount of offgassing from the water and the chlorination systems. I mean, they used chlorine as a poison gas in WWI (and in Iraq today); it can&#039;t be good for anyone.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Finally, I remember that in some places, they are attempting to harness the energy generated at gyms -- see &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/03/08/human-powered-gyms-in-hong-kong/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt; about a gym in Hong Kong. It&#039;s actually owned by a subsidiary of 24-Hour Fitness, which is where I go. Maybe they&#039;ll expand the program to other gyms. If we bother them. Eventually, we&#039;ll probably be so starved for energy that we&#039;ll just put everyone on treadmill generators, sort of like in &quot;The Matrix&quot;. Well, it will do something about the obesity problem. I guess people who get into debt will be sentenced to the treadmills to work it off. They&#039;ll receive a steady IV of high-fructose corn syrup. If that sounds like an inefficient way to get energy out of corn, it&#039;s probably no worse than biofuels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soots and Arya, my dear sleek friends, the reason I didn&#8217;t let you write the post is that I didn&#8217;t want to subject the loyal readers of FPF to multiple paragraphs of your cute, but ultimately cloying and annoying LOLspeak. Your brother Robb can write coherently. Why can&#8217;t you? Hmm. Since you have the same genetic heritage, it must be nurture. I guess <i>your</i> caretakers must provide you a more intellectually stimulating environment, more full of books and music.</p>
<p>OK, yes, I got it wrong about sunk costs. It&#8217;s not as if I&#8217;ve invested anything in the gym so that I have to keep using it to make good my investment, or that I have to keep investing in the hopes of getting that big payoff someday, like a gambler who keeps doubling or nothing. <i>That&#8217;s</i> basically what we&#8217;re doing in Iraq, otherwise known as pouring good money after bad, refusing to cut our losses and stop. What I&#8217;m doing with the gym and granola bars is thinking, they&#8217;re free, or cheap, so I must take advantage of them, whether they are really the best thing for me or not. However, the gym membership does convey some benefits besides the use of the energy-wasting stairclimber: places to change, rest, or use a hot tub or sauna all over the area. So I could argue either that I might as well continue my membership, or that I&#8217;m getting my money&#8217;s worth just from those factors and thus, don&#8217;t need to use the stairmaster to justify my monthly dues payment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard about the shoeless movement. If I could run just on dirt or grass, which I try to do anyway to reduce shock, I would try it. But on pavement &#8212; especially considering some of the things that end up on the pavement &#8212; I&#8217;m not sure it would work. Although the interviewee in <a HREF="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89830802" REL="nofollow">this NPR piece</a> thinks differently.</p>
<p>As for swimming, I&#8217;m not worried so much about the effects of chlorine on my body, though I guess I should be (though one of the places I swim uses a system that permits very low chlorination, so that the water tastes almost salty), but rather the effects on the environment of having big tubs of chlorinated water standing around. There must be a certain amount of offgassing from the water and the chlorination systems. I mean, they used chlorine as a poison gas in WWI (and in Iraq today); it can&#8217;t be good for anyone.</p>
<p>Finally, I remember that in some places, they are attempting to harness the energy generated at gyms &#8212; see <a HREF="http://www.inhabitat.com/2007/03/08/human-powered-gyms-in-hong-kong/" REL="nofollow">this article</a> about a gym in Hong Kong. It&#8217;s actually owned by a subsidiary of 24-Hour Fitness, which is where I go. Maybe they&#8217;ll expand the program to other gyms. If we bother them. Eventually, we&#8217;ll probably be so starved for energy that we&#8217;ll just put everyone on treadmill generators, sort of like in &#8220;The Matrix&#8221;. Well, it will do something about the obesity problem. I guess people who get into debt will be sentenced to the treadmills to work it off. They&#8217;ll receive a steady IV of high-fructose corn syrup. If that sounds like an inefficient way to get energy out of corn, it&#8217;s probably no worse than biofuels.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanya</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/05/i-can-has-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-2295</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geez, I never thought about the gym... I do feel like I get a better workout outside (i.e. running vs. the treadmill) but I love the classes at my gym and sometimes I like to watch T.V. while I work out... It would be v. cool to see your workout efforts turned into energy though...  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You sound v. fit!  I admire your dedication!  You could always take up open water swimming. :) Not that I think the Bay is much less toxic than the pool!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, I never thought about the gym&#8230; I do feel like I get a better workout outside (i.e. running vs. the treadmill) but I love the classes at my gym and sometimes I like to watch T.V. while I work out&#8230; It would be v. cool to see your workout efforts turned into energy though&#8230;  </p>
<p>You sound v. fit!  I admire your dedication!  You could always take up open water swimming. :) Not that I think the Bay is much less toxic than the pool!</p>
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/05/i-can-has-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-2294</link>
		<dc:creator>Allie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I started running in an old pair of Chinese slippers this week after reading a bunch of articles on barefoot running.  My muscles got quite the work out, but I didn&#039;t get shin splints like I always do.  Of course, I ran on Monday, and my muscles are just back to where I can run again today.  But once you get used to running like that, it&#039;s supposed to be fantastic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started running in an old pair of Chinese slippers this week after reading a bunch of articles on barefoot running.  My muscles got quite the work out, but I didn&#8217;t get shin splints like I always do.  Of course, I ran on Monday, and my muscles are just back to where I can run again today.  But once you get used to running like that, it&#8217;s supposed to be fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/05/i-can-has-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-2293</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re swimming -- I&#039;m a lapswimmer and pretty resigned to it not being a sustainable, green sport, but it&#039;s pretty good for my personal (read mental) ecology so there it is.  The chemicals are a problem though even just looking at it as a swimmer.  To minimize the badness, you should avoid the pool when the water is cloudy, try and swim when there are fewer people in the pool, and shower BEFORE swimming and encourage everyone else to do so.  It turns out that not just the stuff we put on our skins (sunscreen, lotion, etc) but even sweat reacts with the pool chemicals to produce evil bad for you stuff.&lt;br/&gt;And thanks for the bike tube/goggle strap idea -- I broke the strap on my favorite 20 year old goggles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re swimming &#8212; I&#8217;m a lapswimmer and pretty resigned to it not being a sustainable, green sport, but it&#8217;s pretty good for my personal (read mental) ecology so there it is.  The chemicals are a problem though even just looking at it as a swimmer.  To minimize the badness, you should avoid the pool when the water is cloudy, try and swim when there are fewer people in the pool, and shower BEFORE swimming and encourage everyone else to do so.  It turns out that not just the stuff we put on our skins (sunscreen, lotion, etc) but even sweat reacts with the pool chemicals to produce evil bad for you stuff.<br />And thanks for the bike tube/goggle strap idea &#8212; I broke the strap on my favorite 20 year old goggles.</p>
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		<title>By: SootsandArya</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/05/i-can-has-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-2292</link>
		<dc:creator>SootsandArya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hay big klumzy guy we cud rite way better post den dis. dat wuz wut Soots trying 2 do but u no pusht him off keebord. y u no letz us rite post wen mommy away?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also u lousy ekonomist. Sunk costs not same as feling u haz to take advantij uv free stuf.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hay big klumzy guy we cud rite way better post den dis. dat wuz wut Soots trying 2 do but u no pusht him off keebord. y u no letz us rite post wen mommy away?</p>
<p>Also u lousy ekonomist. Sunk costs not same as feling u haz to take advantij uv free stuf.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2008/05/i-can-has-floor/comment-page-1/#comment-2291</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would be great if the gym used equipment that generated electricity, instead of using it. It seems like that ought to be possible, right? How many people on treadmills would it take to run the TV?&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;But really, i feel like the gym is a part of the greater good. This may be influenced by our six months of winter. But our YWCA is a great community center. They run kids programs. They do antiracist work. And even though the machines and the big barnlike track building (also used by the neighboring elementary school!) and the TVs and the weird synthetic carpet all use a lot of energy, we are sharing them, which is much more efficient and fosters connections with our neighbors. &lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;Anyway, that&#039;s my justification for our gym membership. That and the sheer joy of sitting in a sauna until my core is completely warm before going back out into the -10 weather in January.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be great if the gym used equipment that generated electricity, instead of using it. It seems like that ought to be possible, right? How many people on treadmills would it take to run the TV?</p>
<p>But really, i feel like the gym is a part of the greater good. This may be influenced by our six months of winter. But our YWCA is a great community center. They run kids programs. They do antiracist work. And even though the machines and the big barnlike track building (also used by the neighboring elementary school!) and the TVs and the weird synthetic carpet all use a lot of energy, we are sharing them, which is much more efficient and fosters connections with our neighbors. </p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s my justification for our gym membership. That and the sheer joy of sitting in a sauna until my core is completely warm before going back out into the -10 weather in January.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 16:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can I come over and play?  They have a new kitten and have forgotten about me.  Robb]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I come over and play?  They have a new kitten and have forgotten about me.  Robb</p>
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		<title>By: JustBec</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustBec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 15:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can run without shoes. It&#039;s supposed to be better for you. Here&#039;s a somewhat recent article: http://nymag.com/health/features/46213/. Okay, I&#039;m lazy and don&#039;t feel like linking, so you&#039;ll have to copy/paste. Sorry. Oh, the article isn&#039;t specifically about running, but does talk about why barefoot is good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can run without shoes. It&#8217;s supposed to be better for you. Here&#8217;s a somewhat recent article: <a href="http://nymag.com/health/features/46213/" rel="nofollow">http://nymag.com/health/features/46213/</a>. Okay, I&#8217;m lazy and don&#8217;t feel like linking, so you&#8217;ll have to copy/paste. Sorry. Oh, the article isn&#8217;t specifically about running, but does talk about why barefoot is good.</p>
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