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	<title>Comments on: BPA: California let us down. The Smart Mama&#8217;s Green Guide can help.</title>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Taggart, TheSmartMama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Taggart, TheSmartMama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Beth. Thanks so much for mentioning my book. As for Christine&#039;s friend comments, this probably isn&#039;t the place to debate all of the various studies, problems with the studies, relevance to human exposure, dosing methodologies, etc. That being said, the NTP&#039;s report found &quot;some concern&quot; (a 3 on a 5 point scale) for fetal exposure (among other issues). Given that, why take the chance if you are pregnant or getting pregnant? Not to mention that there may be  effects for adult exposure. Given that, why not look for alternatives?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Beth. Thanks so much for mentioning my book. As for Christine&#39;s friend comments, this probably isn&#39;t the place to debate all of the various studies, problems with the studies, relevance to human exposure, dosing methodologies, etc. That being said, the NTP&#39;s report found &quot;some concern&quot; (a 3 on a 5 point scale) for fetal exposure (among other issues). Given that, why take the chance if you are pregnant or getting pregnant? Not to mention that there may be  effects for adult exposure. Given that, why not look for alternatives?</p>
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		<title>By: Fake Plastic Fish</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2009/07/bpa-california-let-us-down-smart-mamas/comment-page-1/#comment-6642</link>
		<dc:creator>Fake Plastic Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Christine.  Thanks for that information.  What I&#039;m concerned about are the effects on babies, whose bodies are not yet fully developed.  Jennifer&#039;s book goes into detail about how some chemicals that are basically harmless for adults can be tragically toxic for babies in their first years because their bodies aren&#039;t yet able to fully process chemicals like ours are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This morning, I read a study that basically said there was not enough data to assess the risk to newborns.  What parent wants their kids to be the used as lab mice to determine if a chemical is harmful or not?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I guess the question to ask is whether or not we actually need BPA.  Do we actually need polycarbonate bottles?  Is there a safer alternative to BPA in cans?  Eden Foods thinks its found one by going back to the vegatable-based epoxy that was used before the advent of BPA.  I wonder if your friend has any info/opinion in that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christine.  Thanks for that information.  What I&#39;m concerned about are the effects on babies, whose bodies are not yet fully developed.  Jennifer&#39;s book goes into detail about how some chemicals that are basically harmless for adults can be tragically toxic for babies in their first years because their bodies aren&#39;t yet able to fully process chemicals like ours are.</p>
<p>This morning, I read a study that basically said there was not enough data to assess the risk to newborns.  What parent wants their kids to be the used as lab mice to determine if a chemical is harmful or not?</p>
<p>So I guess the question to ask is whether or not we actually need BPA.  Do we actually need polycarbonate bottles?  Is there a safer alternative to BPA in cans?  Eden Foods thinks its found one by going back to the vegatable-based epoxy that was used before the advent of BPA.  I wonder if your friend has any info/opinion in that.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a little further BPA information from a good friend of mine.  I sited an article to him about the negative effects of BPA here:http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/2009-releases/bpa-chemical-plastics-leach-polycarbonate-drinking-bottles-humans.html, and he responded with this information.  Take it or leave it:  &quot;First, I applaud you for looking into this and reading up on it. So please don&#039;t take anything I am about to write as personal or critical in any way whatsoever. I just happen to know quite a bit on this subject and have grown increasingly frustrated over the past year as the media has driven this non-issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secondly, this article is incredibly misleading. What they don&#039;t tell you is that BPA doesn&#039;t come out of urine as BPA. It comes out as glucoronidated-BPA. BPA goes in to the gut, absorbed, and hits the liver, the liver glucoronidates the BPA. Glucoronidated-BPA is effectively non-toxic. You may ask, why does this matter?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The article states, &quot;Numerous studies have shown that it acts as an endocrine-disruptor in animals, including early onset of sexual maturation, altered development and tissue organization of the mammary gland and decreased sperm production in offspring. It may be most harmful in the stages of early development.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What they don&#039;t tell you is these studies inject BPA directly into the gut of mice, thereby by-passing the liver glucoronidation. If you perform the study by administering BPA orally (within the diet) then you have to go up to 600 mg/kg/day in order to see effects in the most sensitive species (mouse). In fact, 50 mg/kg/day is a clear no effect level. That would equal 2.5 grams of pure BPA monomer/day for a 50 kg person as being the safe level. To put it in more concrete terms, that would mean 0.5 grams for baby Julian.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t plan on grinding up baby bottles and injecting them into myself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thirdly, we know SOOOOOOOO much about BPA. We have millions upon million of dollars worth of excellent studies that show clear effects at astronomical doses when used by the relevant route. Anything is toxic when applied at a high enough dose. My cup of coffee contains hundreds of chemicals and specifically 7 well recognized human carcinogens. I trust using BPA because we know so much and we know we are over 1,000 fold lower in exposure than what could cause problems. We don&#039;t know so much about potential replacements for BPA to use in bottles, bicycle helmets, the functional lining of cans, etc...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are certainly things to be concerned about. In, my opinion at least, BPA is a poison of the mind.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a little further BPA information from a good friend of mine.  I sited an article to him about the negative effects of BPA here:<a href="http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/2009-releases/bpa-chemical-plastics-leach-polycarbonate-drinking-bottles-humans.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/2009-releases/bpa-chemical-plastics-leach-polycarbonate-drinking-bottles-humans.html</a>, and he responded with this information.  Take it or leave it:  &quot;First, I applaud you for looking into this and reading up on it. So please don&#39;t take anything I am about to write as personal or critical in any way whatsoever. I just happen to know quite a bit on this subject and have grown increasingly frustrated over the past year as the media has driven this non-issue.</p>
<p>Secondly, this article is incredibly misleading. What they don&#39;t tell you is that BPA doesn&#39;t come out of urine as BPA. It comes out as glucoronidated-BPA. BPA goes in to the gut, absorbed, and hits the liver, the liver glucoronidates the BPA. Glucoronidated-BPA is effectively non-toxic. You may ask, why does this matter?</p>
<p>The article states, &quot;Numerous studies have shown that it acts as an endocrine-disruptor in animals, including early onset of sexual maturation, altered development and tissue organization of the mammary gland and decreased sperm production in offspring. It may be most harmful in the stages of early development.&quot;</p>
<p>What they don&#39;t tell you is these studies inject BPA directly into the gut of mice, thereby by-passing the liver glucoronidation. If you perform the study by administering BPA orally (within the diet) then you have to go up to 600 mg/kg/day in order to see effects in the most sensitive species (mouse). In fact, 50 mg/kg/day is a clear no effect level. That would equal 2.5 grams of pure BPA monomer/day for a 50 kg person as being the safe level. To put it in more concrete terms, that would mean 0.5 grams for baby Julian.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t plan on grinding up baby bottles and injecting them into myself.</p>
<p>Thirdly, we know SOOOOOOOO much about BPA. We have millions upon million of dollars worth of excellent studies that show clear effects at astronomical doses when used by the relevant route. Anything is toxic when applied at a high enough dose. My cup of coffee contains hundreds of chemicals and specifically 7 well recognized human carcinogens. I trust using BPA because we know so much and we know we are over 1,000 fold lower in exposure than what could cause problems. We don&#39;t know so much about potential replacements for BPA to use in bottles, bicycle helmets, the functional lining of cans, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>There are certainly things to be concerned about. In, my opinion at least, BPA is a poison of the mind.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Anaquita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anaquita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunatel the American way seems to be &quot;The burden of proof is on the consumers&quot;. :&#124; Applies to chemical laden things, like cans, plastic bottles, and well pretty much with everything else.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Like genetically altered vegetables. Which is over 70% in the markets. Not that they tell you this, or clearly mark them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Had long debates about this in college.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunatel the American way seems to be &quot;The burden of proof is on the consumers&quot;. :| Applies to chemical laden things, like cans, plastic bottles, and well pretty much with everything else.</p>
<p>Like genetically altered vegetables. Which is over 70% in the markets. Not that they tell you this, or clearly mark them.</p>
<p>Had long debates about this in college.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s so disappointing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have 2 little kids and I agree. I don&#039;t want them to be the guinea pigs. It&#039;s not about BPA, really, it&#039;s about the way that we approach chemicals and human health. This is just one other sad example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s so disappointing.</p>
<p>I have 2 little kids and I agree. I don&#39;t want them to be the guinea pigs. It&#39;s not about BPA, really, it&#39;s about the way that we approach chemicals and human health. This is just one other sad example.</p>
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		<title>By: Green Bean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green Bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man. that&#039;s a bummer! I&#039;m usually so proud of our state.  We may not be able to balance a budget or educate our young or staff our parks but dammit we can usually stand up for environmental issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man. that&#39;s a bummer! I&#39;m usually so proud of our state.  We may not be able to balance a budget or educate our young or staff our parks but dammit we can usually stand up for environmental issues.</p>
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