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		<title>By: On The Recycle Garbage Trail (part1) &#124; Bags Revolt</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2009/12/is-recycling-the-answer-to-holiday-waste/comment-page-1/#comment-34616</link>
		<dc:creator>On The Recycle Garbage Trail (part1) &#124; Bags Revolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 14:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also came across this very well written article on recycling by the writer of an Amazing blog  My Plastic Free Life here Beth Terry tell it how it is! Reading this article I remembered  how I actually already knew [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] also came across this very well written article on recycling by the writer of an Amazing blog  My Plastic Free Life here Beth Terry tell it how it is! Reading this article I remembered  how I actually already knew [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RecycleBill</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2009/12/is-recycling-the-answer-to-holiday-waste/comment-page-1/#comment-9364</link>
		<dc:creator>RecycleBill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 00:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Beth.

Not to imply that recycling is bad or that it shouldn&#039;t be encouraged but as one who manages a privately owned recycling center for a living and owns a search engine devoted to private recyclers I can only add that when we recycle we are admitting that we have in-fact failed to find a better way to resolve the very problems we&#039;ve created.

Also, while it is true that privately owned retail recycling centers aren&#039;t perfect, our record for not sending what we take in to landfills remains far better than municipally funded recycling centers. You see, we pay for and then resell recyclables and anything we send to a landfill represents lost profits. Municipally funded recyclers, private or public can always recoup their losses from the taxpayers thereby profiting from landfilling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Beth.</p>
<p>Not to imply that recycling is bad or that it shouldn&#8217;t be encouraged but as one who manages a privately owned recycling center for a living and owns a search engine devoted to private recyclers I can only add that when we recycle we are admitting that we have in-fact failed to find a better way to resolve the very problems we&#8217;ve created.</p>
<p>Also, while it is true that privately owned retail recycling centers aren&#8217;t perfect, our record for not sending what we take in to landfills remains far better than municipally funded recycling centers. You see, we pay for and then resell recyclables and anything we send to a landfill represents lost profits. Municipally funded recyclers, private or public can always recoup their losses from the taxpayers thereby profiting from landfilling.</p>
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		<title>By: Clif</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2009/12/is-recycling-the-answer-to-holiday-waste/comment-page-1/#comment-9339</link>
		<dc:creator>Clif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just sent a message to the city streets and sanitation director to find out if the company that handles our recycling is allowed to simply dump it as garbage.

I&#039;ve noticed that the content of recycling bins has moved away from the items that are stated to be recyclable to all manner of trash, including the items you showed that foul separation equipment. Yet the recycling company and the city have done not one thing to enforce the content requirements, not even a mention of the problem by either one in newsletters or the local paper.

Why would any recycling company gladly accept anything rather than restrict collection to the things that can truly be recycled? It so happens that the company we use is ALSO a garbage hauler. Isn&#039;t that interesting?

Residents here pay for recycling. What is earned from the recyclables is not enough to cover the cost of the recycling program. So the recycling company gets money from us regardless of what it does with the stuff it collects. Why shouldn&#039;t the recycling company shut down its materials reprocessing facility and just haul the stuff to the landfill? They might make more money that way so why not?

In other words, the whole program could be a fraud - people diligently recycle only to have the material dumped anyway. I&#039;m investigating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just sent a message to the city streets and sanitation director to find out if the company that handles our recycling is allowed to simply dump it as garbage.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that the content of recycling bins has moved away from the items that are stated to be recyclable to all manner of trash, including the items you showed that foul separation equipment. Yet the recycling company and the city have done not one thing to enforce the content requirements, not even a mention of the problem by either one in newsletters or the local paper.</p>
<p>Why would any recycling company gladly accept anything rather than restrict collection to the things that can truly be recycled? It so happens that the company we use is ALSO a garbage hauler. Isn&#8217;t that interesting?</p>
<p>Residents here pay for recycling. What is earned from the recyclables is not enough to cover the cost of the recycling program. So the recycling company gets money from us regardless of what it does with the stuff it collects. Why shouldn&#8217;t the recycling company shut down its materials reprocessing facility and just haul the stuff to the landfill? They might make more money that way so why not?</p>
<p>In other words, the whole program could be a fraud &#8211; people diligently recycle only to have the material dumped anyway. I&#8217;m investigating.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Terry</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2009/12/is-recycling-the-answer-to-holiday-waste/comment-page-1/#comment-9338</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Laura.  Let me clarify.  What I mean by &quot;downcycling&quot; is that the loop is never closed, so it&#039;s not an example of true recycling.  And that is the problem with plastics.  That Trex board will end up in the landfill when it is worn out, and but for a few exceptions, that&#039;s what will happen to all other &quot;recycled&quot; plastic.  

Glass and metal, on the other hand, can be recycled over and over again.

We do recycle in our home and try to buy products that contain recycled content.  I just don&#039;t think that recycling is a sustainable solution to the plastic problem because it does nothing to stem the production of new disposable plastic.

The fact that plastic bottles cannot be recycled into new plastic bottles is an argument against producing them in the first place, isn&#039;t it?
.-= Beth Terry´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://fakeplasticfish.com/2009/12/recycle-vs-refill-conversations-with-hp-cartridge-world-silo-ink/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Recycle vs. Refill: Conversations with HP, Cartridge World, &amp; Silo Ink&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Laura.  Let me clarify.  What I mean by &#8220;downcycling&#8221; is that the loop is never closed, so it&#8217;s not an example of true recycling.  And that is the problem with plastics.  That Trex board will end up in the landfill when it is worn out, and but for a few exceptions, that&#8217;s what will happen to all other &#8220;recycled&#8221; plastic.  </p>
<p>Glass and metal, on the other hand, can be recycled over and over again.</p>
<p>We do recycle in our home and try to buy products that contain recycled content.  I just don&#8217;t think that recycling is a sustainable solution to the plastic problem because it does nothing to stem the production of new disposable plastic.</p>
<p>The fact that plastic bottles cannot be recycled into new plastic bottles is an argument against producing them in the first place, isn&#8217;t it?<br />
.-= Beth Terry´s last blog ..<a href="http://fakeplasticfish.com/2009/12/recycle-vs-refill-conversations-with-hp-cartridge-world-silo-ink/" rel="nofollow">Recycle vs. Refill: Conversations with HP, Cartridge World, &#038; Silo Ink</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that reducing and reusing come before recycling, but I don&#039;t agree with all the points you made about recycling.  My main isssue is that you consider recycled bottles turned into trex (plastic wood) as downcycling - I have always considered this upcycling because the end product is more valuable than the initial product.  Same goes for fleece items made from recycled materials and Preserve products as well.  True that companies need to use virgin material to make new plastic bottles, but a recycling center manager in Durham, NC told me this was because of health codes that did not allow post-consumer recycled plastics in food containers (plastics do not truly melt to be remade into new objects, like glass or metal, which is the reason).  I haven&#039;t checked this out, but it makes sense to me.  And again, I completely agree that we need to reduce our consumption and reuse materials, but I am also a true believer in recycling and try to close the loop myself by buying items made with a high recycled content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that reducing and reusing come before recycling, but I don&#8217;t agree with all the points you made about recycling.  My main isssue is that you consider recycled bottles turned into trex (plastic wood) as downcycling &#8211; I have always considered this upcycling because the end product is more valuable than the initial product.  Same goes for fleece items made from recycled materials and Preserve products as well.  True that companies need to use virgin material to make new plastic bottles, but a recycling center manager in Durham, NC told me this was because of health codes that did not allow post-consumer recycled plastics in food containers (plastics do not truly melt to be remade into new objects, like glass or metal, which is the reason).  I haven&#8217;t checked this out, but it makes sense to me.  And again, I completely agree that we need to reduce our consumption and reuse materials, but I am also a true believer in recycling and try to close the loop myself by buying items made with a high recycled content.</p>
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		<title>By: zsa zsa</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2009/12/is-recycling-the-answer-to-holiday-waste/comment-page-1/#comment-9333</link>
		<dc:creator>zsa zsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 11:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year I started wrapping my presents in old newspapers and pages from old magazines. I&#039;m doing it again this year, and I&#039;ve asked family members to do the same. Some of them still love buying and using wrapping paper, so I guess it will take a while for me to really convince them to minimize that.

Also, I&#039;ve been diligently bringing my reusable bag whenever I hit the mall and refusing plastic packaging whenever I can. Small steps, but hopefully, I can get family and friends to follow too. =)

Great article, wonderful tips!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year I started wrapping my presents in old newspapers and pages from old magazines. I&#8217;m doing it again this year, and I&#8217;ve asked family members to do the same. Some of them still love buying and using wrapping paper, so I guess it will take a while for me to really convince them to minimize that.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;ve been diligently bringing my reusable bag whenever I hit the mall and refusing plastic packaging whenever I can. Small steps, but hopefully, I can get family and friends to follow too. =)</p>
<p>Great article, wonderful tips!</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a friend who scouts out colorful kitchen towels on sale during the year, and wraps presents in them. Often using raffia and things like Rosemary twigs or pine cones for decoration. Pretty and useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a friend who scouts out colorful kitchen towels on sale during the year, and wraps presents in them. Often using raffia and things like Rosemary twigs or pine cones for decoration. Pretty and useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My family is so cheap, we have always reused gift bags and boxes.
 
The first year my stepdad was part of the family, he wrote everyone&#039;s name in MARKER on the gift bags and TAPED THEM SHUT! Imagine the horror at making the gift bags non-reusable :)

My partner&#039;s family, not so much. But I am just learning to live with his relationship to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My family is so cheap, we have always reused gift bags and boxes.</p>
<p>The first year my stepdad was part of the family, he wrote everyone&#8217;s name in MARKER on the gift bags and TAPED THEM SHUT! Imagine the horror at making the gift bags non-reusable :)</p>
<p>My partner&#8217;s family, not so much. But I am just learning to live with his relationship to them.</p>
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		<title>By: mugs</title>
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		<dc:creator>mugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>giving experience gifts is such a great idea
.-= mugs´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://gormano.blogspot.com/2009/12/wake-up-with-me.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wake Up With Me&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>giving experience gifts is such a great idea<br />
.-= mugs´s last blog ..<a href="http://gormano.blogspot.com/2009/12/wake-up-with-me.html" rel="nofollow">Wake Up With Me</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Billie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reuse bows, ribbons, boxes and bags.   Gifts that aren&#039;t easy to wrap get put in bags usually.  Other items do get wrapped in wrapping paper.  Each year the reusables are pulled from the wrapping garbage and put back into our box of Christmas wrapping.   I have to say that it takes years for a tube of wrapping paper to be used up.  When the kids arrived two years ago, I bought 3 tubes of kid paper for them.  I haven&#039;t bought another tube since then - kid or adult. 

I use a few gift tags for small items but most of my gift tags are made from Christmas cards.  My co-workers (and my company) know that I collect Christmas cards so I get a batch of Christmas cards every year.  I take off the back with the message and signatures and use the picture as the gift tag.  So before they are thrown out, I use them at least one more time!
.-= Billie´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://billieryder.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!1439577BE90BE66D!2109.entry&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bad Parenting? Check!&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reuse bows, ribbons, boxes and bags.   Gifts that aren&#8217;t easy to wrap get put in bags usually.  Other items do get wrapped in wrapping paper.  Each year the reusables are pulled from the wrapping garbage and put back into our box of Christmas wrapping.   I have to say that it takes years for a tube of wrapping paper to be used up.  When the kids arrived two years ago, I bought 3 tubes of kid paper for them.  I haven&#8217;t bought another tube since then &#8211; kid or adult. </p>
<p>I use a few gift tags for small items but most of my gift tags are made from Christmas cards.  My co-workers (and my company) know that I collect Christmas cards so I get a batch of Christmas cards every year.  I take off the back with the message and signatures and use the picture as the gift tag.  So before they are thrown out, I use them at least one more time!<br />
.-= Billie´s last blog ..<a href="http://billieryder.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!1439577BE90BE66D!2109.entry" rel="nofollow">Bad Parenting? Check!</a> =-.</p>
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