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		<title>By: Sweet Pea</title>
		<link>http://myplasticfreelife.com/2011/05/guilt-and-a-green-conscience/comment-page-1/#comment-35632</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweet Pea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 14:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As many other commenters have suggested, it feels a little like a semantics game to think about the relative worth of guilt (in all its motivating and demotivationg guises). 

Guilt, I am well-acquainted with. Though I can&#039;t say it drives me to action as much as what I think of as conscience. To me, guilt feels like the left-overs when I don&#039;t do what&#039;s worthwhile (listen to your conscience). 

But shame... for me, shame is the more destructive power. It is the crippler of action. When I allow myself to feel like I just can&#039;t do something right enough or green enough, it kills the urge to try. It&#039;s one reason why I feel like there&#039;s a delicate balance between educating and shaming. I&#039;d rather be shown a better way of doing something than shamed for the thing I&#039;ve done. I try to bring this to my interactions with others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As many other commenters have suggested, it feels a little like a semantics game to think about the relative worth of guilt (in all its motivating and demotivationg guises). </p>
<p>Guilt, I am well-acquainted with. Though I can&#8217;t say it drives me to action as much as what I think of as conscience. To me, guilt feels like the left-overs when I don&#8217;t do what&#8217;s worthwhile (listen to your conscience). </p>
<p>But shame&#8230; for me, shame is the more destructive power. It is the crippler of action. When I allow myself to feel like I just can&#8217;t do something right enough or green enough, it kills the urge to try. It&#8217;s one reason why I feel like there&#8217;s a delicate balance between educating and shaming. I&#8217;d rather be shown a better way of doing something than shamed for the thing I&#8217;ve done. I try to bring this to my interactions with others.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Botes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Botes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and I totally agree with Eve Stavros about finding a balance and by doing two &quot;good&quot; things for any one &quot;bad&quot; thing that you do. What I also often do, if I really HAVE to do or use something non-renewable, chemical or damaging to the earth, then I&#039;ll try and educate or make aware the people with or around me how and why it is bad - as example, if I really have to fly and there is no practical other way of transport, then I&#039;ll tell the people on the plane about my awesome previous travels via bus or train, and why I usually opt for not traveling by air. Often people are very interested in what you&#039;ve got to say, surprised at how much airplanes contribute to greenhouse gasses, and usually are keen to try the bus or train on their next trip. As an example. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I totally agree with Eve Stavros about finding a balance and by doing two &#8220;good&#8221; things for any one &#8220;bad&#8221; thing that you do. What I also often do, if I really HAVE to do or use something non-renewable, chemical or damaging to the earth, then I&#8217;ll try and educate or make aware the people with or around me how and why it is bad &#8211; as example, if I really have to fly and there is no practical other way of transport, then I&#8217;ll tell the people on the plane about my awesome previous travels via bus or train, and why I usually opt for not traveling by air. Often people are very interested in what you&#8217;ve got to say, surprised at how much airplanes contribute to greenhouse gasses, and usually are keen to try the bus or train on their next trip. As an example. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Botes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Botes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 09:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Beth. 
Thanks for this post! Great to read!!

I think that a couple of years ago most of the people who&#039;s doing things NOW that contribute towards the environmental movement or eco-activism felt like you did at that time. I remember a stage where talks around climate change was very negative and there was an attitude of we-are-doomed-no-matter-what. I was there too - I&#039;ve felt depressed, frustrated and yes, I&#039;ve felt a LOT of guilt. 

It&#039;s easy to feel guilty - about ANYTHING. I feel guilty for using time to type this post rather than working on the illustrations I&#039;m supposed to work on today. I feel guilty that I haven&#039;t gone for a walk or jog this morning. I could easily feel guilty for not spending a bit more time with my husband this morning or for not packing his lunch. But where would it get me? Then I&#039;m using my thoughts and the POWER of these thoughts to focus on what I SHOULD have done or what I SHOULD be doing, rather than doing something that &#039;matters&#039;, like writing, painting, working, gardening, volunteering... 

I think guilt has it&#039;s place as a little voice that tells you that you&#039;re not really doing what you WANT to really do - whether out of procrastination, laziness or a misperception. But I also think that it often tends to take up too much of our thoughts and energy, pulling us down and - like you said - leads us into inaction. 

With regards to guilt guiding or motivating us into action, into trying to making a difference and guide through example - I would rather not call it &#039;guilt&#039; but being in touch with what is worth doing. When you&#039;re in touch with what you really want - and I really do think that we all WANT happiness, harmony and sustainability - then guilt just nudges you back onto the right path when you get distracted. And depression follows when you ignore that nudge long enough. Wow, that was quite a mouthful, now - hope you understand and make sense of what I&#039;ve expressed!

Blessings, and keep up the great work!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Beth.<br />
Thanks for this post! Great to read!!</p>
<p>I think that a couple of years ago most of the people who&#8217;s doing things NOW that contribute towards the environmental movement or eco-activism felt like you did at that time. I remember a stage where talks around climate change was very negative and there was an attitude of we-are-doomed-no-matter-what. I was there too &#8211; I&#8217;ve felt depressed, frustrated and yes, I&#8217;ve felt a LOT of guilt. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to feel guilty &#8211; about ANYTHING. I feel guilty for using time to type this post rather than working on the illustrations I&#8217;m supposed to work on today. I feel guilty that I haven&#8217;t gone for a walk or jog this morning. I could easily feel guilty for not spending a bit more time with my husband this morning or for not packing his lunch. But where would it get me? Then I&#8217;m using my thoughts and the POWER of these thoughts to focus on what I SHOULD have done or what I SHOULD be doing, rather than doing something that &#8216;matters&#8217;, like writing, painting, working, gardening, volunteering&#8230; </p>
<p>I think guilt has it&#8217;s place as a little voice that tells you that you&#8217;re not really doing what you WANT to really do &#8211; whether out of procrastination, laziness or a misperception. But I also think that it often tends to take up too much of our thoughts and energy, pulling us down and &#8211; like you said &#8211; leads us into inaction. </p>
<p>With regards to guilt guiding or motivating us into action, into trying to making a difference and guide through example &#8211; I would rather not call it &#8216;guilt&#8217; but being in touch with what is worth doing. When you&#8217;re in touch with what you really want &#8211; and I really do think that we all WANT happiness, harmony and sustainability &#8211; then guilt just nudges you back onto the right path when you get distracted. And depression follows when you ignore that nudge long enough. Wow, that was quite a mouthful, now &#8211; hope you understand and make sense of what I&#8217;ve expressed!</p>
<p>Blessings, and keep up the great work!!</p>
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		<title>By: sui</title>
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		<dc:creator>sui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 06:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S. Reading an article on environmental ethics right now...

&#039;Paul Goodman speaks from the modern point of view when he says: &quot;No good has ever come from feeling guilty, neither intelligence, policy, nor compassion. The guilty do not pay attention to the object but only to themselves, and not even to their own interests, which might make sense, but to their anxieties&quot;&#039;
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/162/3859/1243.full

^ I concur.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Reading an article on environmental ethics right now&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8216;Paul Goodman speaks from the modern point of view when he says: &#8220;No good has ever come from feeling guilty, neither intelligence, policy, nor compassion. The guilty do not pay attention to the object but only to themselves, and not even to their own interests, which might make sense, but to their anxieties&#8221;&#8216;<br />
<a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/content/162/3859/1243.full" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencemag.org/content/162/3859/1243.full</a></p>
<p>^ I concur.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy (Eco-novice)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy (Eco-novice)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That dog shit quote is awesome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That dog shit quote is awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 18:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that what is most effective in terms of spurring people to action is social pressure. Scooping dog poop is a good example of this. Once it becomes the expected norm that people will clean up after their pets, you face possible public censure for NOT doing it. It&#039;s not so much guilt that&#039;s motivating you, though. I would call it something different.

I&#039;ve seen the same thing with reusable bags at the grocery store. Once it became EXPECTED, everyone started carrying their own bags.

I&#039;m not sure that guilt is productive. But exerting a bit of social pressure can absolutely make people change their habits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that what is most effective in terms of spurring people to action is social pressure. Scooping dog poop is a good example of this. Once it becomes the expected norm that people will clean up after their pets, you face possible public censure for NOT doing it. It&#8217;s not so much guilt that&#8217;s motivating you, though. I would call it something different.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen the same thing with reusable bags at the grocery store. Once it became EXPECTED, everyone started carrying their own bags.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that guilt is productive. But exerting a bit of social pressure can absolutely make people change their habits.</p>
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		<title>By: Eve Stavros</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eve Stavros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 13:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Jennifer, in that guilt can be used as a motivator, but in moderation.   A little poke now and then keeps our conscience on track and helps us course-correct off negative behaviors.  But allowing guilt to overwhelm just creates more negativity which can make any effort at self-improvement seem too burdensome.  I&#039;m trying to operate on a balance system, in which if I do something I know I shouldn&#039;t (like take that nasty styrofoam tray!!!)  I try to do two things to make up for it.  This helps me focus on feeling good about what I&#039;m doing now to further my efforts, rather than feeling bad/guilty about where I went wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jennifer, in that guilt can be used as a motivator, but in moderation.   A little poke now and then keeps our conscience on track and helps us course-correct off negative behaviors.  But allowing guilt to overwhelm just creates more negativity which can make any effort at self-improvement seem too burdensome.  I&#8217;m trying to operate on a balance system, in which if I do something I know I shouldn&#8217;t (like take that nasty styrofoam tray!!!)  I try to do two things to make up for it.  This helps me focus on feeling good about what I&#8217;m doing now to further my efforts, rather than feeling bad/guilty about where I went wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 04:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sure it doesn&#039;t work the same for everyone, but guilt has proven to be an excellent motivator for me. Over the years, I&#039;ve noticed a pattern in how I adopt greener actions. First I read or hear something that reveals just how un-green something I do is. Then I feel defensive about my old habit for a little while, anywhere between a week and a few months. Then I feel guilty, and then (and only then) I get off my butt and make the change. 

I think the key might be to not spend too much time feeling guilty over things you&#039;ve already done, but rather to focus on doing a better job in the future. I can&#039;t change the number of disposable plastic bottles I&#039;ve used and thrown away or recycled now, but I can make sure I don&#039;t use any more. A little guilt is good for making me think more critically about my decisions, but crippling guilt just leads to apathy and depression.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure it doesn&#8217;t work the same for everyone, but guilt has proven to be an excellent motivator for me. Over the years, I&#8217;ve noticed a pattern in how I adopt greener actions. First I read or hear something that reveals just how un-green something I do is. Then I feel defensive about my old habit for a little while, anywhere between a week and a few months. Then I feel guilty, and then (and only then) I get off my butt and make the change. </p>
<p>I think the key might be to not spend too much time feeling guilty over things you&#8217;ve already done, but rather to focus on doing a better job in the future. I can&#8217;t change the number of disposable plastic bottles I&#8217;ve used and thrown away or recycled now, but I can make sure I don&#8217;t use any more. A little guilt is good for making me think more critically about my decisions, but crippling guilt just leads to apathy and depression.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 02:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with guilt is that people expiate it with minor actions &quot;oh i got different lightbulbs&quot; and then stop, because they don&#039;t feel guilty anymore.

Peer pressure is different. People didn&#039;t just stop letting their dogs shit everywhere because of guilt, they did it because OTHER people said nasty things to them about it, glared at them, and otherwise held them responsible for their dogs. People do a lot of things to fit in, not all of them motivated by guilt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with guilt is that people expiate it with minor actions &#8220;oh i got different lightbulbs&#8221; and then stop, because they don&#8217;t feel guilty anymore.</p>
<p>Peer pressure is different. People didn&#8217;t just stop letting their dogs shit everywhere because of guilt, they did it because OTHER people said nasty things to them about it, glared at them, and otherwise held them responsible for their dogs. People do a lot of things to fit in, not all of them motivated by guilt.</p>
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		<title>By: Maeve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maeve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about replacing the word &#039;guilt&#039;, with all its negative connotations, with &#039;awareness&#039;? Sitting with the awareness, not brushing it away as we might guilty feelings, because they are unpleasant. Once you&#039;re aware of a harm you are doing, you can then choose to do something about it, or not. Awareness connects us to ourselves, each other and everything else in this planet. And when you feel connected you&#039;re naturally, unconciously motivated to care, and right action follows. My 2 cents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about replacing the word &#8216;guilt&#8217;, with all its negative connotations, with &#8216;awareness&#8217;? Sitting with the awareness, not brushing it away as we might guilty feelings, because they are unpleasant. Once you&#8217;re aware of a harm you are doing, you can then choose to do something about it, or not. Awareness connects us to ourselves, each other and everything else in this planet. And when you feel connected you&#8217;re naturally, unconciously motivated to care, and right action follows. My 2 cents.</p>
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