My Plastic-free Life - Topic: New survey of consumers - are you deep or light green?

JohnUK on New survey of consumers - are you deep or light green?

Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:15:26 -0800

Jaque Fresco of the Venus Project, who lived through the Great Depression of 1919, seems a down-to-earth man who sees parallels in today's financial crisis. The idea behind the project is to change to a sustainable type system where the world's resources are shared by all on an equal basis.

Their movement is looking to make a film to promote their vision to a greater audience. Jaque is looking to get other people involved to form an effective grouping with the idea of forming self-sustaining communities.

There is reference to the state of the planet, akin to Beth's shared ideas so it is worth looking at the ideas and maybe discussing it in detail.

JohnUK on New survey of consumers - are you deep or light green?

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:14:14 -0800

Hi All,

Zeitgeist is astrological bunkum. Having an objective view, the many inaccuracies throw doubt on the basis for this movement.

Clif on New survey of consumers - are you deep or light green?

Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:01:12 -0800

Here is a link to a PDF file that includes the script of the Zeitgeist video mentioned above.

Lara on New survey of consumers - are you deep or light green?

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:06:35 -0800

Clif, I too had disagreements with some opinions and doubted the truthfulness of some information showed in Zeitgeist. I do believe though, that the main issues are real. The film opened my mind in the subject of "the monetary system", since I had never thought about it very much. When I was a child though, I read a few of Enrique Barrios' books ("Ami: child of the stars"), which describe other peaceful worlds where there is no money and the environment is looked after.

http://www.infiniteunknown.net.....mibook.pdf

They are books for children, but those ideas stayed with me somehow. I never thought other people may have similar thoughts until I watched Zeitgeist :)

I'd like to discuss it. It would be very interesting.

Beth Terry on New survey of consumers - are you deep or light green?

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:49:54 -0800

This forum can be whatever you want it to be! You could add the topic to the Miscellaneous section. I'll be posting another No Impact Man discussion next week. Have gotten behind in my reading! Should I see this movie?

Clif on New survey of consumers - are you deep or light green?

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:47:18 -0800

Lara, I started watching Zeitgeist and it's very interesting. I paused for now after part one. It mixes fact and opinion to present ideas that are not all well supported. Several times I thought, yes, how true but an equal number of times I thought, wait just a second, that is unwarranted and contrary to evidence.

I think the program would be a great subject to discuss section by section, like Beth is doing with No Impact Man, but would that be ok on this forum since it would not deal primarily with the subject of plastic (are you there, Beth?). Since the program is supported with a slide series where points are made, it would be ideal for dissection. Is anyone else interested in taking it apart for better or worse?

I'll keep watching as time allows. Bully for them to come up with a program that is over an hour. Not everything can be handled in 5 minutes on YouTube!

Lara on New survey of consumers - are you deep or light green?

Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:16:57 -0800

Why not take a look at this situation from a different perspective? We're analizing this as if money was a "fact of life", a rule of our world, like gravity or rain. We judge almost very choice in our life by its monetary cost. Why not change this monetary system we live in and do things differently? If this sounds completely utopian to you, I say: dare to dream!! Dare to question the system in every way you can, and then decide if you want to give up before trying to make it change.

If you wonder why I think this way, watch "Zeitgeist: addendum" (for free following this link): http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Ekdog on New survey of consumers - are you deep or light green?

Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:14:04 -0800

Being car-free and meat-light (working on becoming a vegetarian--haven't bought any meat in over a year, just a little fish) save me thousands of euros every year, which allows me to spend a little extra at times on environmentally friendly products. We must be careful, though, as there are a lot of greenwashers out there.

Beth Terry on New survey of consumers - are you deep or light green?

Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:34:12 -0800

I agree partially. There are some ways to protect the environment while spending less money. I'll be publishing a post about one of those ways tomorrow, in fact.

Clif on New survey of consumers - are you deep or light green?

Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:12:03 -0800

I came across mention of a survey of consumer habits concerning environmentally friendly products. 500 people participated and the result is interesting, particularly in the hesitancy of folks to buy eco-items that cost more. Everyone should recognize that helping the environment means choosing a higher purchase price up front rather than having the extra cost remain "external", only to bite us in the future through the unseen damage done.