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September 16, 2010

How to Take Apart and Clean a Stinky Kenmore (Whirlpool) Top Loading Washer

Kenmore washing machineSeems like this is the year for smelly appliances and DIY solutions. A few months ago, it was dishwasher funk. And then recently, we noticed a linty residue on our clothes and a moldy smell coming from the washing machine. (The residue was not laundry powder; we use soapnuts.)

So, how is fixing a washing machine related to plastic? Well, we did end up with some plastic waste during the week-long ordeal. And learning to fix things, in general, is one of my strategies for avoiding new purchases and hence, new plastic. But really, I’m just so tickled that I was able to take the whole thing apart, clean it, and put it back together again, that I have to share!

This post will be long and winding and contain a lot of pictures. Hopefully, it will be funny, too, because who doesn’t enjoy a good washing machine repair story? And since I spent a ton of time on the web looking up parts and procedures and advice, I’ve included a list of all the resources I found at the bottom of this post for quick reference. I’m hoping someone else will find this information useful.

Onward. Here are the steps I took and the challenges I faced down…

1) Causes of white “lint” on clothes.  First, I Googled something like “washing machine leaves lint on clothes” and found this great discussion on the Gardenweb forum (which covers more topics than just gardening) and learned that since the advent of the automatic dryer, washing machine manufacturers have stopped adding lint baskets that can be manually removed and cleaned, assuming the dryer will remove the lint. But at our house, we hang all our clothes to dry, so we can’t rely on the dryer. Here are a few steps I discovered to reduce lint:

    a. Separate linty clothes from non-linty clothes. Wow. I never thought of that. I’ve always separated darks and lights (which seems like a no-brainer way to keep light lint off of dark clothes) but apparently, it’s also good to wash linty things like sweatshirts and towels apart from dark clothing as well.
    b. Avoid powdered detergent in cold water. But like I said, we use soapnuts, which are not powder and are not detergent.
    c. If the machine has a self-cleaning filter at the bottom (apparently ours does), you have to take the machine apart to see if it’s actually cleaning itself properly.

2) Causes and solutions for moldy washer smell.  Next, I Googled “moldy top load washing machine smell -front” (I excluded the word “front” because it seems that more frontloading washers have this problem than top loading, and the instructions for them are different) and discovered a very helpful discussion of Kenmore Washer Odors on Bob Vila’s Website. From this and other sites, I found these suggestions:

    a) Run a hot water maintenance cycle once a month without clothes, adding a cup of white vinegar to the water. We tried that, and it helped for a couple of weeks, and then the washer started smelling again.
    b) Other suggestions for washer cleaning involved bleach, heavy duty detergents, and mold killer, none of which I want to use. Some posters blame cold water washing and natural laundry cleaners. Well, I’m not willing to use hot water for my clothes (once a month to clean the washer is okay) and toxic detergents, so there had to be a better way.
    c) Several people said they’d taken the washer apart and found terrible black gunk underneath the tub, so after the hot water vinegar failed us, and since I wanted to check that self-cleaning filter anyway, I decided to take the machine apart.

3) Note the model number of the machine.  How else was I going to find out how to take it apart?  Lift the lid. The model number is on a sticker on the rim of the washer.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

3) Order the DIY Washer Repair Manual.  Why? Because even if you still have the  Users Guide that came with the machine, it won’t tell you how to take the thing apart.  Sears wants you to call their technicians!  I found our manual on the Sears Parts Direct website, but tonight, I get an error message when I try to find it on the site.  No worries.  Turns out, Kenmore top load washers are actually made by Whirlpool, so this Whirlpool washer repair manual will work as well.

The manual was shipped in a plastic mailer.  So that’s plastic item #1 for this project.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

4) Remove the cabinet. You don’t need me to explain this. Instructions are in the manual. And apparently, we didn’t even need to buy the manual because the repair instructions are also online at RepairAve.com and the website ApplianceAid.com has good information about repairing a Whirlpool/Kenmore top loading direct drive washer as well!

What’s more, if you want to see how the machine is supposed to come apart, do the following search on Youtube: “WHIRLPOOL WASHER REPAIR VIDEO” and you’ll find the whole series of videos by Youtube user DIYAPPLIANCEREPAIR that show you exactly how to do it step by step. But beware.  The machine that British James uses in the videos is apparently new and works exactly like it’s supposed to. Mine did not.

Anyway, we removed the cabinet, and Michael set it up on top of the dryer because we have so little room in our back hallway.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

5) Remove the white plastic ring on top of the tub.  Follow the instructions.  After I got mine off, I found this gunk on the underside.  I cleaned it off in the shower.  It’s nothing compared to what we found later.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

6) Remove the cap from the agitator and remove the nut inside. Fortunately, the nut driver we bought to repair the dishwasher was the right size. It turned out not to be a single-purpose tool after all!

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

7) Remove the spanner nut. According to the manual, this thing should come off easily with a hammer and screwdriver.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

Whoa, Nelly! I tried all day to get that thing off with a screwdriver, and all I did was dent the metal. Michael tried too, pounding and pounding against the screwdriver with the hammer. The spanner nut moved not at all.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

Then, I discovered that there’s actually a special tool made just for this purpose, which I learned about on the Discuss-o-Mat forum. (Okay, so we did need a single-purpose item after all.)

8) If the hammer and screwdriver don’t work, use a spanner nut wrench. We could have ordered one through the mail, but our washer was semi-disassembled, and we needed to do laundry. Michael put an ad on Craigslist to find out if anyone in the neighborhood had one. (Buying used or borrowing or sharing are other methods I use to avoid buying new stuff, plastic and otherwise.) We didn’t find someone with the wrench, but we did get advice about which hardware store to call. The store’s manager directed us to Reliable Parts in Berkeley. (Reliable Parts has a few locations in other states, too, as well as an online store.) Michael was able to ride over on his bike and pick up the spanner nut wrench the very next day.

Unfortunately, the tool came packaged in a plastic bag and was wrapped in a plastic foam sheet. Plastic items #2 and #3.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

A few taps on the wrench and the spanner nut was off. I was good to go… or so I thought.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

9) Lift the entire inner porcelain washer tub up off the drive block and out of the outer plastic tub.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

This should have been easy. In fact, witness how easy it is for British James (who, as you’ll see, does NOT recommend getting the spanner nut off with a screwdriver and hammer):

Not so easy for me. I nearly tore my hair out for a whole day trying to pull the tub up. It didn’t budge. It didn’t even hint that it might budge. I wondered if there were screws or something else holding it in place — something that British James failed to mention. Then, I found a whole thread on the Appliance Guru discussion forum about this very thing: Whirlpool Washer Inner Drum Removal.

10) Try alternative methods to remove the washer tub. Members of the forum suggest that years of accumulated crud has cemented the tub to the drive block and that only brute force will move it. Michael’s strong. I could have waited for him to come home. But no way! I hate not being able to do things myself! I tried all the suggestions on the forum: banging a hammer along the drive block, using a screwdriver in gap on drive block to pry it loose, banging and yanking, searching on Google, banging and yanking, searching on Google again. This went on for hours. I was a little obsessed.

I even followed a suggestion on the ApplianceAid.com site to get in the tub and stomp on it. So I did. If I could have taken a picture of myself stomping inside the washing machine, I would have.

Finally, I gave up on Google and used my own brain. I figured that the gunk was probably a mixture of solidified oil and soap. Maybe it would dissolve! First, I tried pouring some white vinegar into the opening between the tub and the drive block. Looking closely, I saw what seemed to be microscopic evidence of debris dissolving. Cool. So then, I boiled water. I poured an entire kettle of boiling water into that sucker.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

Then, I yanked. And Holy Mother of Everything Congealed, the thing moved!  I danced in my jammies.  (Because why wear big people clothes when all you’re doing all day is trying to take a washing machine apart?)  And after getting that thing out, this is what I found had been making it stick.  Gross, right?

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

And this is what I found inside the plastic tub:

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

11) Clean the drive block and inside the plastic tub. The task was harder than it might have been because now the tub was all full of water… the water I had poured in to loosen the inner tub. So I got a container and started baling. And when the water was too shallow to bale, I gathered up towels and sopped the rest of it up. Then, I cleaned that drive block with a toothbrush and probably a rag. I can’t remember now. Suffice it to say, you could have eaten lunch off that thing when I was done.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

12) Turn the inner tub upside down and remove plastic filter. The filter doesn’t look bad in this picture, does it?

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

Not until you check out the solidified crud inside that hole: the rest of what was cementing the tub to the drive block.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

And this is what the outside of the tub looked like. (Imagine how it smelled. Just for a second. Okay, you can stop imagining it now.)

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

13) Thoroughly clean the porcelain tub. I put it in the bathtub and sprayed it with the handheld showerhead until it too sparkled.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

Afternoon snack, anyone?

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

14) Put the machine parts back together. All the nice clean inner parts were easy to put back together, simply reversing what I had done before and without crappy icky crap to get in the way.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

15) Reattach the cabinet, and do some laundry! This part was not so easy. Remember, Michael had put the cabinet up on top of the dryer.  He was not here to bring it back down, and I was not strong enough.

Or was I?

It occurred to me that I had gravity on my side. Getting it down would be easier than lifting it up.  All I had to do was inch it over near the washer and then try and keep it from dropping too hard. Once the cabinet was on the floor, I did another little happy dance in my jammies. Setting it up on the bottom rail was no easy feat, but I got that done too. And then, I did laundry. Glorious laundry.

How to fix a Kenmore Whirlpool Top Loading Washer

Our washer and dryer are old. How old, we didn’t know because we inherited them from our last landlord. But there’s a way to find out! The website Appliance411.com has a Date Search page. Just enter the Brand, Appliance Type, Location, Model Number and Serial Number (both numbers are on that sticker under the lid) and the site will tell you the date your machine was made. Ours was manufactured the week of October 26, 1992. It’s 18 years old and has probably been accumulating nasty-smelling crud for that long. But it’s still going strong, as far as we know. So party on, Garth.

Conclusion

No evil smells yet. I’m separating linty clothes from non-linty. I’m running a cleaning cycle once a month with hot water and vinegar to prevent the buildup from starting again. I should leave the lid up so the tub can air out when not in use, but there’s no telling what could fall in.

The real conclusion in all this is that fixing things yourself (if you have the time and obsessive persistence) is a great self-esteem booster. I highly recommend it, as long as it doesn’t require a needle and thread!

Resources:

Gardenweb forum discussion of lint on clothes

Kenmore Washer Odors thread on Bob Vila’s website

Source for purchasing Whirlpool washer repair manual if Kenmore is unavailable (they’re the same)

Top Loading, Direct Drive Washing Machine Repair Manual online

ApplianceAid.com information about repairing washing machines and other appliances

British James’s Whirlpool washer repair videos on Youtube

Sears Parts Direct website for most Kenmore appliance parts

Reliable Parts source for spanner nut wrench and other appliance parts

ApplianceGuru.com discussion forums

Appliance411.com Date Search to find out age of your appliance

But for information on how I finally unstuck the washer tub from the drive block, you’ll have to read the post!

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Kay Kaye
1 year ago

This seems like too much work for the price of a new washer! I like that you took this task on and like even more that you shared in great detail every step and every place to acquire information and tools! Just a heads up… I use to use white distilled vinegar in my laundry for things like monthly cleaning and heavy loads like sheets and towels. It really helps to rid musty smells from laundry. But, after a year of using the vinegar, my washer started rusting and the paint started coming off. After researching it on Google and talking to an appliance repair guy I brought in to fix the condenser on my fridge, I learned the vein what is caustic and causing the paint removal and rust! I stopped using it after buying a new washer! Thanks for your great blog! I enjoy most of your articles.

Griffin
3 years ago

Thanks, Lori Benton! I would never have gotten the tub out without the gear puller. It was a little scary cranking the puller and listening to the tub/block pop as it slowly worked its way loose, but in the end nothing got damaged. I used an over sized fender washer to more evenly distribute the force of the center spindle on the shaft.

I got the puller as a loaner from Advanced Auto Parts which ends up being free once you return it (https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/powerbuilt-tools-kit-43-reversible-gear-jaw-puller-kit-648613/9150008-P). Most of the other large parts stores offer this service too. A 6″ puller was a necessity. I tried the 4″ version first but it was too small.

Oksana T
3 years ago

THANK YOU for this post!!! I just finished scrubbing out my 19 year old washing machine and feel like a million bucks. The amount of slime and crud was horrifying! I honestly can’t wait to put it all back together and do some laundry 😁 Your post was a lifesaver; we encountered every single problem you mentioned might occur and were able to breeze right through with your tips. One thing I didn’t realize was how hard it might be to remove the plastic filter on the bottom of the tub; that alone took me probably a good 45 minutes. It was practically cemented on with rust and crud. Thank you again!

Brian Bucar
3 years ago

I just disassembled my washer yesterday to do this. I didnt pull the drum out though. I jammed my hand between the tub and the spin basket to scrub the crud out. I also took that plastic balancing ring off the top of the spinning basket and cleaned all sides of that. there was some funk hiding behind that ring and the spin basket.

getting that ring back on tight though requires some finesse…. put the ring on loose and then twist as hard and as fast as you can to seat it in place.

then i ran an entire bottle of glisten washer magic through the washer on high fill/speed/hot water and double rinse and all is well in laundry land again.

im going to do this once a year from now on.

Brian

Kitty
3 years ago

I’ve put in the 3 pots of boiling water the drum still won’t come loose what now????

IrishBrian
3 years ago
Reply to  Kitty

Keep tapping the drum with a rubber mallet

Lori Benton
4 years ago

Thank you so much for this post! It made dismantling and cleaning our 25 year old washer seem possible. We are chemically sensitive in our house so when the spin basket refused to slide off the shaft and all the hot water, vinegar, hot vinegar in the world didn’t budge it we switched to a c-clamp method (https://youtu.be/r6iyR8KcqMQ) which also didn’t work for us. Upon reading another option in a forum that was reminiscent of a gear puller we headed down to our local Tractor Supply and found my new best friend: https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/jobsmart-carbon-steel-gear-puller-6-in?cm_vc=-10005 ! We put the wrench onto the basket shaft upside down (tabs up), put the spanner nut back on and hooked the gear puller to the wrench with the center spindle on the top of the shaft. It slid off like a dream! Yes, it did cost $35 + tax but was less expensive than trips to the chiropractor or a repairperson. And it didn’t even come in plastic packaging! I just wanted to share what helped us budge the beast for the next diminutive person trying to wrangle a rusty basket!

Also, our lint trap (the plastic trumpet on the underside of the basket) did not want to pop loose. Once I got some sludge cleared away I was able to see that there were openings that lined up with the “tabs” that held it to the basket in the tube. I slid a long, narrow standard screwdriver into the opening toward the tab and levered it so the tab came out of the hole. I used a tiny prybar on the inside of the tube to hold it out while I replaced the screwdriver with a stouter one to keep it out of the hole while I worked my way around the four tabs. A pain, yes, but effective. Thank goodness we have a lot of screwdrivers!

Best wishes to any poor souls who have to follow in our footsteps! It can be done! And we will feel much better about using our newly cleaned washing machine!

Kayla Renee
4 years ago

How do you get the plastic filter off the bottom?!?!

AJ
4 years ago

I just cleaned my nasty stinky washer because of your awesome blog post. Breaking that crust that held the tub in place was hard, but after gobs of wd40, goo gone, and a lot of hot water it finally broke free. This technique is what finally did it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6iyR8KcqMQ

ivyben
4 years ago

Thank you so much for posting this!! This saved us countless hours!!

Ian
4 years ago

Well that’s a bummer. No new insights. I’ve put vinegar in there, boiling water, boiling water with citric acid activator (dissolves lime deposits), even a bunch of WD40. The tub will not budge :(

Susan Calcagno
4 years ago
Reply to  Ian

Rock the tub from side to side. Then do the other side and rock it some more. It will loosen up then you can lift it out. Use a lot of WD-40 and let it sit overnight if it still doesn’t budge. Mine was rusted badly in the tube and the rocking broie the rust loose.

Karen Kelly
5 years ago

Thank YOU!!! My washer is exactly like yours & all the videos & all the other diy sites couldn’t get that stinkin’ inner tub unstuck. I finally got my 16 year old to get in & rock the boat, as it were. Take a bow! I’m applauding!!! Oh, & the vile, super-nasty mess I found makes yours look pristine. As a house cleaner by trade, I’ve cleaned up some spectacular messes. Nothing comes close to what was hiding in that washer. Paint scrapers, wire brush, hours of scrubbing, Bleach & more Bleach. Still have the heebie jeebies ! Without your help I’d still be fighting that thing! Thanks again!

Jim
5 years ago

My washer still fighting back after the boiling water. I took a rest and I noticed that the drive block was going up and down 1/4″ and 1/2″. So I screwed the spanner nut enough to be flush with the drive block and hit it with a hammer 3 times and the basket got loose.
Nice helpful article thank you!

Sayana
5 years ago

How many pots of boiling water did you use? I’m almost done but the tub won’t budge. I’m getting ready to scream…or cry! I used 2 pots so far but it’s still not moving!!!

Aaron Beepdoo
4 years ago
Reply to  Sayana

You have to keep repeating methods, every other method being another kettle of boiling water! It took me 3 boiling water kettles, then 1 boiling kettle of vinegar, another of water then 3 small boiling pots of water before mine gave way! I’m so thankful for this blog! I did have to get a spanner wrench cause screwdriver and a hammer were just not working. Ha ha, but the guy at the appliance parts store was really cool and offered to buy the ranch back for five dollars after I used it. I told him I’m going to keep it for future maintenance. 😉

Karen
5 years ago

We just bought a used Whirlpool Top Loader made in 2007. I tried two different new-fangled washing machines and they are terrible. So, we decided to find something used and as old of a model we could find. However, it has a nasty smell. I did a wash with bleach and detergent, then another wash with vinegar and baking soda. It still stinks. I will try your method next. I am almost certain it is filthy with gunk and could use a good old fashioned cleaning. Thanks for the tips and links!

Douglas
5 years ago

Wonderful job and great information. All with a sense of humor. Thanks. I had a similar experience with mine. I had reversed the dogs so it would agitate again. That lasted a good while. I ended up taking it apart later for bearing replacement. The slime that was where I could not reach otherwise was scary and mind blowing.

Cat
5 years ago

Thank you!!! Your blog post was the one that gave me the nudge I needed to disassemble and clean my beloved but elderly KitchenAid washer. (With loads of help from my husband.) The tip to use vinegar to loosen the tub from the spindle was also very, very helpful. It’s amazing how totally gross it was – and how oddly satisfying it can be, scraping off decades of gradeaux with a putty knife. We also dremelled rust off the upper housing (caused by a liberal and imprecise use of bleach) and painted with appliance epoxy after. And now… it’s CLEAN!! Another appliance saved from the landfill. Thanks again!

Susan Calcagno
4 years ago
Reply to  Cat

What is the upper housing that you are referring to? I have a badly rusted tub spinner base. Is they is the part that you dremeled? I trying to finfld out if it can be saved.

Erin
5 years ago

I had a repairman take mine apart. It looked almost identical to yours. Mine is around 12 years old. I have cats so large gobs of hair in nooks and crannies. He said it just happens after so long and there is nothing you can do to prevent it. I never wash filthy rugs or work clothes in my washer, but there was sure a lot of filth in that washer. I admire you for doing your own. It cost me 100 dollars but it was well worth it.

PCDishwasher
6 years ago

Now this is what a DIY post is supposed to look like! Step-by-step details and pics…great post.

Amy
6 years ago

I am wearing my pyjamas and smiling because it’s nice to share this kind of frustration with someone. Thanks so much for taking the time to have documented your experience. Very helpful!!

Kati
6 years ago

I watched TONS of videos, and read so many how-to guides about doing this. I stopped and started so many times because I kept hitting road blocks along the way. Nothing I found on any how-to site or youtube was nearly as helpful as this. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Appliance Parts and Supplies
6 years ago

Hey, thank you for the step by step procedure.. Really nice post with understandable images and content.. You just done an awesome job by having this kind of post.. For Appliance Parts and Supplies like dishwasher, dryer and washer parts etc refer https://www.partsips.com/

Susan Calcagno
4 years ago

Oh my gosh, thamk you for the parts store address. It never came up on my searches for the best prices on parts. They are held the orice of even ebay and Amazon on the spinner base tgat I need. $52.94. It is $96.96 on Amazon most sotes want $120 approximately. This is a lifesaver because its so badly rusted and restoring it will be lot of work. If I can even get the the stem base smooth enough not to distort the seal and leak again. Yippee.

Laura
6 years ago

I’m so happy!! I did it and now I have a clean washer for the first time in years. When we picked it up used, it stunk. But we kept the lid open most of the time and that mitigated the ‘odor’, sort of. Finally, I had enough when our towels came out smelling funky over and over. I took my time with this operation because I didn’t want to inadvertently break something. All-in-all, it went about as smooth as I could hope. Alot of work to scrub all the gunk out but now I have a sparkling clean 20+ year old washer. I swear it’s even agitating better. Thanks for putting this online for all us do-it-yourselfers.

Karen
6 years ago

This post was right on time!!! I have a Kenmore top loader washer also. It is at least 20 years old. I thought I was either going to purchase a new one or get it repaired. I will not need to do either and this is why:
My issue”was”, I was soaking some whites. I wanted to add a quarter cup of pool chlorine to the soaking process. However, I used the algae control thinking it was the chlorine. I left everything as is. Hours later, the water and my whites were black. The cool down and spin cycle would not work. Therefore, I took out the clothing and placed them in a solution of bright white. In the interim, I googled my problem and found your post.
I read your post and the light bulbs in my head kept going off. Now, I am clear that algae control product had dissolved the crude in the washer, and caused all the black discoloration of the water as well as my whites turning black. Then my problem with the cool down and the spin cycle was a new issue. I went through all the different wash cycles and finally. I slammed the lid down really hard, and the cycle issue was resolved.

I ran two wash cycles. I ran one more with soap and soak, and the machine is working great!! No more crude black water or stains.

My whites are white again; as the soaking solution worked a wonder.

Thanks for your post!!!

Michael Bastian
6 years ago

Amazing post. I followed your directions, but did not remove the drum. I filled the drum with boiling water and liquid plumber and left overnight. I then ran 2 hot rinse cycles and all the sludge came out of the hose. The clothes that come out of the washer now are more wringed out and don’t smell anymore. This post helped profusely. Thanks a million!!

valerie marzili
6 years ago

at one time you could reach in and pull out the filter, clean it and you were done. Well, not you have to take the machine apart. Great for the company to send out a repair man to take your whole machine apart to find why you have lint on your clothes. The old filter in the machine back in a day were doing fine…so they should have let it be. I hate my kenmore. I have nothing but trouble with micro and now the washing machine.

Virginia Mom
6 years ago

Our 12-year-old washer had started leaving little brown flecks on clothes, and I discovered your very helpful post while searching for answers. Realizing we’d never cleaned it, I was concerned what would be lurking within, since I’d washed baseball uniforms for 6 years (with ground in clay & sand). Our tub ring had layers of caked build-up, and the agitator underside had a goo of clay & who knows what. We never got the porcelain tub out — 3 kettles of boiling water & a quart of vinegar, and that sucker never budged, despite 2 adults yanking & twisting. The top of the drive block got sparkling clean, but we figured the clay had bonded to everything lower down & wasn’t going to dissolve enough to release the tub. Really frustrating, because we could see deposits on the outside of the porcelain tub & in the plastic tub as well. But we cleaned everything else before putting it back together, and are hoping that just getting the gunk out of the agitator might help. If we continue to get brown flecks, we’ll look for a new washer. Regardless of when we do, I now know how to clean it out! Thanks for the great “how to” guide.

Terri BartlettU15UR
6 years ago

Went looking for how to change a washer belt and saw your post. Intrigued by the opening description I read what you offered. Besides being informative it was humorous and I applaud your sticktoitiveness!

Nicole
6 years ago

I loved this article. Thanks so much for the pictures and the resources and the step by step guide. Awesome

Tracy
7 years ago

I have a HE Kenmore washer with the dreaded smell. I solved the problem in my prior Maytag by taking it apart and cleaning out all the lint/gunk but I can only get so far in this one with removing drum. Right now I can’t remove the nut at the bottom of the drum – any suggestions? I had it off once a year or so ago trying to find the source of the smell. I finally called a repair man who couldn’t/didn’t solve the problem. He looked at me like I was crazy when I said there is a source to this smell in there somewhere that has to be removed. He said just to run the clean machine cycle with bleach. What bull – that doesn’t get to the source. He apparently tightened that bolt a ridiculous amount before he left. This HE machine doesn’t have the agitator like the older model machines.

coolniceman
6 years ago
Reply to  Beth Terry

HE (front loader) machines should have the soap dish and door left slightly ajar when not in use and they will NEVER smell or build up mold. Too many people close them after use and they develop mold for that reason. I had them for 15 years without so much as a scent. Liquid Cascade can break down any biofilm in the drum or other parts in both front and top load washers, basically doing what affresh does for $0.30 per application rather than $4 per.

Great article on how to disassemble tub.

Chuck
7 years ago

I do not know when you posted this information but it sure was helpful. The bad part is I have to tear the washer apart again. That’s what I get for not doing a search prior to doing work. At least I know the ins and outs of tearing it apart and it will not take so long this time.

Sumitra Joy
7 years ago

Thank you! This was just awesome—I also came across this highly instructive video looking for help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfr-m5iXh3s
I have a W/D Kenmore looks very similar to yours—off to find out the exact year–thanks for that link!!

Karen
7 years ago

Too funny, I found your story while desperately trying to get the drum out of my mom’s washer. I had stayed the night and was in my pajamas determined not to let this stupid machine beat me. You were a kindred spirit. I thought of you while I jumped in, hopping inside a washing machine. It was too funny. Between beating, hacking, destroying numerous knives & screwdrivers, vinegar and jumping up and down, then finally my mother and I rocked and yanked with all our might and it moved!!!!! Thank you for all the suggestions.

Robin
7 years ago

Great info. I, too, bought a used washer that was listed on craigslist. I have been using an he front loader for 9 years – no more, if I can help it! I got all the way pulling the inner wash tub out and it would not budge. I even pulled the motor and transmission out. Then I found this blog – working on dissolving the gunk now…..

Stephanie
7 years ago

Thank you, thank you, thank you! I hate wasting money when I can solve problems myself. I was expecting to scour the web to figure out how to clean my washer, but you have it all here. I’m hoping, with my husbands mechanic degree, we can avoid some tool and disassembly issues, and I can get right to scrubbing! Thank you for this! I will definitely be following you!

UtahRed
7 years ago

Thank you. I have the same problem with my beloved 90 series washer. I will not part with it under any circumstances. Now I know I need to call a repair guy to clean as I can’t do this myself. But there is relief since I know this won’t be an expensive part to buy or it’s not forever ruined.

memyselfandi12
8 years ago

I wanted to post to thank you for your tutorial. Although I do not have a Kenmore, I had tracked down the necessary manuals for mine (as close as I could get anyway). I was reluctant to get that bolt at the bottom of the washer out. I did not want to force it, but I knew there were at least two articles of clothing at the bottom of that tub that needed to come out. I am sure they were in part responsible for the laundry not being as clean and fresh as when we got the machine.

After getting my agitator off, there were some slits that I was able to retrieve 3 items that were festering in the bottom of the tub. 1 sock, 1 pair 6yo girls underwear, and one washcloth. The washcloth smelled the worst by far. I am now running a cleaning cycle. We will see how well getting those items out will remove the stench.

Anyway, thanks again.

justbeinme
8 years ago

I am so thankful to have found your post. I keep smelling this awful gooky smell and I did all the vinegar/ bleach/ getting under the rim stuff and still these little brown mildewy pieces are in my washer. I cannot, will not, wash my clothes with this germ infested residue present. I just knew there was gunk and goo in between the drum and the outside ” hidden horrors” I am obsessed with cleaning it, and in just this fashion!!! .”I have proof for my hysband, it is necessary” it can be done AND it WILL be done!!!!! Thank you so much for your perserverance and the care and time to educate the rest of us!! I am more than excited to begin my feat….stay tuned. ..Thanks so much!!! For giving me HOPE!!!!!!!?

alaskameat
8 years ago

I could not get the basket off the shaft to pull it out of the tub and clean it out. I tried for two days with everything short of a cutting torch (including jumping in it and twisting while pulling and hot water, etc.).

I was able to use a pressure washer to get it mostly clean without removing the basket–yeah! Only problem is that when I put it back together I had bent the brackets below from reefing on it so much. It was ruined for good! So don’t yank too hard.

SusanWaite
8 years ago

“Inner tub upside down and remove plastic filter” ???? How in the world do you get that thing off !U0001f615U0001f615

Me
7 years ago
Reply to  SusanWaite

You have to remove a small metal retaining ring inside of the inner tub.

SusanWaite
8 years ago

Ok, here I go ! Wish me luck !

Beth Terry
8 years ago
Reply to  SusanWaite

Good luck!

Bill in Florida
8 years ago

Terrific video. Thanks for sharing. Your video is better than any instruction booklet.

kkc masterpiece
8 years ago

Oh my gosh You are my hero. I have been searching for instructions for this for a while. Our machine is, like, 30 years old and a Maytag and I cleaned a bunch of that black goo out of the lint trap thing in the agitator it still smells…. just think of what’s in the drum. All anyone else posts is that vinegar are or bleach rinse and that didn’t do trap, cause our machine didn’t come straight from the store, it was bought on craigs list. Thank you, you documented your journey so now I will just shrug when my husband comes home, sees what I’ve started and says “Are you crazy?” He knows the answer and now I can show him there’s a very good chance I will be able to reassemble it and have it work!! ( try disassembling and cleaning your vacuum – that’s an eye opener, too!) And I, too, am doing this in jammies.
Happy dance, indeed.

Beth Terry
8 years ago

How did it go? :-)

fix it mama
8 years ago

You have given me hope. I am stuck trying to remove the spanner nut and have used an entire can of WD-40, it seems. I have beat the spanner wrench so hard with the hammer that the nut is stripping and won’t budge. I am going to try boiling some vinegar & water in a pot, now. :)

KirstyChaignon
8 years ago

Thanks for the advice. I used boiling water and some Goof Off poured in there, and for me the addition “trick” was to twist AND lift (with my son helping). Just lifting straight up was too hard. The twisting did the trick (after the boiling water ‘n’ stuff!)

Absolutely disgusting discovery ensued…

ajb353
8 years ago

Thank you for this post. I followed your instructions and watched the videos from British James and successfully took apart, cleaned, and re-assembled my washing machine. Hopefully I can get several more years of use out of the washer now. Is your machine still kicking along?

Beth Terry
8 years ago
Reply to  ajb353

It’s now March 2015, and the machine is still alive and well!

ajb353
8 years ago
Reply to  Beth Terry

Mine is still working flawlessly as well. I get a little excited when i get an email that people came across this article and are taking on this project. It’s not that hard to do once you can get the the large nut off with the spanner wrench. I used a 5 lb “engineer’s hammer” to budge the nut loose – that seemed to do the trick for me. Once again thanks for this article!

Heather
9 years ago

my four pots of boiling water have, so far, yielded no results. I have also poured in CLR… and attempted to WD40 the heck out of it. Hopefully I am not creating a chemical nuisance in my garage with all of that, but I can literally see the gunk stuck to the outer tub through the semi-translucent plastic and I don’t dare install the thing before I get it clean – because the last thing I want is a pipe/sewer issue because of all the gunk!! I’ll get at it again tomorrow – thanks so much for this post!!

Beth Terry
8 years ago
Reply to  Heather

How did it go?

Bill in Washington State
9 years ago

Beth, Thank you for your post on the stinky washer and a step by step repair. Our washer is a Kenmore and is in the same era that your is. We bought it used from an older couples estate sale about 4 years ago. The smell started coming and we tried numerous ways to “clean” it. The drive coupling failed and I had to take the cabinet apart to replace it. I noticed that the top of the outer tank had accumulated grime mixed with dog hair. I wiped out what I could reach with my big hands and thought that would be an improvement. My wife coaxed me to take the washer basket out to do a deep clean. Thanks to your experience and the sharing of it I….we…..have a clean smelling washer again. I have the washer basket and agitator back together in just a few hours. (The spanner nut was a challenge but persistence was the key to get it off with a screw driver and a hammer). The HOT water into the cracks of the washer basket around the spindle did the trick to get the basket out without much more effort than wiggling it side to side.. WOW was the underneath side of that thing cruded up. I took mine outside to clean it. All is shiny clean now, just waiting for the drive coupling to arrive so I can put the washer back in service. Should get another 10 years out of it. Thank you again for posting your experience. I looked around at other things you are doing as well and have been working on ways to cut my new plastic usage down. Bill from Washington State (I’ll be back to see what is new)

Kaylen
9 years ago

Not sure if the funky smell ever came back, but I’ve found running my washer empty with 60 g each of washing soda and borax every couple months prevents smells. (I looked up the MSDS for Affresh and these were the primary components of it, so I save myself the cost and artificial fragrance and just mix my own.)
That’s really interesting about the lint trap. I air dry my clothes, too, and the room where I dry them gets coated in the dog fur a dryer would collect.

MamaS
9 years ago

Not quite the success I was wanting… NOT because of your tutorial, no…. it’s because somehow I always take possession of things that are possessed! haha. I got all the way down to the Spanner Nut, and everything came to a screeching halt. Mine just so happened to have a locking nut (my father in law even welded me a spanner nut wrench in a couple hours since no where near us had one) and after trying, for more than 5 hours (I really wish I was exaggerating!) we finally said that it’s not coming off, and forcing it may break something and it’s not worth to have to put yet another washing machine on the curb. (this is our 2nd used washer this year…) I did manage to clean the upper ring, and peal off the gunk on the top of the outer basket, but that was about it. :( We fought for a good hour trying to get the cabinet back on… and it’s still not on right…. I’m pretty sure the metal got warped funny when we moved it into the house, and it just won’t sit right. And cleaning out the base near the motor didn’t help with the burning plastic smell we were also noticing… so I think all these set backs happened for a reason… one final push to just buy a new washer. The lint is much less now than before and the smell is less as well. If only my washer would have cooperated…. Thank you again for a great tutorial!

Plastic-Free Ericka Moderator
9 years ago
Reply to  MamaS

MamaS Wow, five hours! That is some serious dedication. How nice of your father in-law to join in on the operation and weld you a spanner nut wrench, wish I had a welder in the family :) And yes, it does sound like your washer is possessed! Sorry to hear it didn’t work out.

Melina
8 years ago
Reply to  MamaS

MamaS Ours won’t budge either!!!

MYRL C
9 years ago

MY REFURBISH WASHER THAT WE HAVE HAD FOR ONLY TWO MONTHS HAS ALSO BEEN HORRIBLY STINKY. IVE WASHED THE INSIDE AS INSTRUCTED AND STILL IT SMELLS. WE HAVE NO FILTER WHICH WAS THE ODDEST THING TO ME. MY NEIGHBOR TOLD ME ABOUT THE INNER FILTER ISSUE SHE HAS WITH HER FRONT LOADER. (MINE IS A TOP LOADER) AT HER COMMENT I DECIDED TO GOOGLE THIS ISSUE AND AM DELIGHTED TO FIND YOUR PAGE, WE FX ALL OUR APPLIANCES AS NEEDED. SINCE WE BOUGHT THIS AT A REFUBISHING STORE IT DID NOT COME WITH A BOOK. THANK YOU SO MUCH, I BELIEVE WE CAN SOLVE OUR ISSUE BECAUSE OF YOUR EXPERIENCE. I WILL POST HOW IT GOES WHEN I HAVE A CHANCE TO CLEAN IT.